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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Last Updated: 19.06.2025 04:32

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

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Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

Why would a spouse cheat if the marriage is good?

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

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ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

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As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Why am I so jealous towards couples? Why am I tired of being single and feel my life is over?

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Why would Trump make conspiracy claims that Haitians are eating pets in Ohio?

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Where did Noah build the Ark? Was it in a desert or near water?

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

What are your funniest "lost in translation" moments if you grew up speaking more than one language?

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

What is the difference between heaven and heavens?

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

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One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Do crossdressers like wearing pantyliners and tampons in their butts?

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

How exactly do things get smuggled into prison? Does the sender hide it inside something else very well? Does someone put it in their butt? Do the prisoners make deals with the officers?

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

What is your analysis of Walter White from Breaking Bad?

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

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ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Why do some people dislike rap and hip hop music despite there being poor quality music in every genre?

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

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There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Sain (a barber)

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

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Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

I am like a fish out of water,

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Now here in this verse

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

CONCLUSION:

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

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Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

then who is there to know what happens without?

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

NOW…

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Kabir (a weaver)

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥